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Draft Room: Josh Jacobs Is Out Indefinitely, and MarShawn Lloyd Is the Pick
Josh Jacobs is on the Commissioner Exempt List with no return date and no Yahoo injured-reserve eligibility. Pete and Frank price the absence, kill the automatic six-game assumption, and name MarShawn Lloyd around Round 7 as the Packers back to redirect the Jacobs pick to, over the newly traded Kaleb Johnson.
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Draft Room: Josh Jacobs Is Out Indefinitely, and MarShawn Lloyd Is the Pick
- Podcaster Pete
Josh Jacobs was going around pick 31 in fantasy drafts. Now he can't practice. He can't play. The NFL hasn't given him a return date, and Yahoo won't let you park him in an injured-reserve slot.
- Podcaster Pete
So this isn't only an availability problem. It's an availability problem that sits on your bench and eats a roster spot every single week.
- Fantasy Frank
An early third-round price for a player who gives you zero points and won't move out of the guest room.
- Podcaster Pete
That's one way to say it.
- Fantasy Frank
It's the accurate way.
- Podcaster Pete
And before somebody says, it's probably six games... no. We don't know that.
- Fantasy Frank
We really don't.
- Podcaster Pete
I'm Pete.
- Fantasy Frank
Frank.
- Podcaster Pete
This is the gamedai Draft Room. We're working off the NFL announcement, ESPN's reporting, Yahoo's roster rules, Article 46 of the collective bargaining agreement, the filed criminal complaint, Packers data, and the historical cases that actually matter.
- Fantasy Frank
Fewer guesses. Better draft decisions.
- Podcaster Pete
The NFL placed Josh Jacobs on the Commissioner Exempt List on Sunday. I almost called it a suspension right there. That's exactly the mistake fantasy managers can't afford to make.
- Fantasy Frank
Think of it as paid administrative leave. Jacobs keeps getting paid and he doesn't count against Green Bay's fifty-three player limit. He can't practice and he can't attend games. With the team's permission he can still use the facility for meetings, medical treatment, rehab and certain individual workouts.
- Podcaster Pete
Green Bay doesn't control when it ends. Only the commissioner can place a player on that list, set how long it runs, and take him off it.
- Podcaster Pete
Matt LaFleur can't decide on a Friday that he needs Jacobs against Minnesota and just activate him.
- Fantasy Frank
And unlike an injury, there's no visible progression here. No limited practice, then full practice, then active. The decisive update has to come from the league office.
- Podcaster Pete
The policy gives him a three business day window to appeal the placement. As of this recording, neither the NFL announcement nor ESPN's report puts a return timetable on him.
- Fantasy Frank
Not two games. Not six. Not back after court. No timetable.
- Podcaster Pete
Now the Yahoo problem, and this is the part people are underrating.
- Podcaster Pete
Yahoo's own help page lists C E L, Commissioner Exempt List, and S U S P, suspended, as ineligible designations for an injured-reserve slot.
- Fantasy Frank
Brutal.
- Podcaster Pete
You cannot move Jacobs out of the way and use that roster spot on somebody else.
- Fantasy Frank
So you pay twice. You lose his points, and you lose the bench spot that could've held a waiver breakout, a bye-week fill-in, or an actual player who's allowed to play football.
- Podcaster Pete
There it is.
- Fantasy Frank
A league with six or seven bench spots gives you room to wait. With four or five, Jacobs becomes a weekly tax. Best ball is worse again, because you can't use waivers to repair the pick at all.
- Podcaster Pete
We also need to separate the current charges from the original arrest report, because those are two different things.
- Podcaster Pete
Jacobs was arrested May 26 after police identified five suspected counts, including felony strangulation and suffocation. Those are not the charges now pending.
- Podcaster Pete
The Brown County criminal complaint, filed August 27, lists two Class A misdemeanors. Battery, and criminal damage to property involving a phone. Each carries a maximum listed penalty of nine months in jail, a fine of up to ten thousand dollars, or both, if he's convicted.
- Fantasy Frank
A complaint is an accusation, not a conviction. The district attorney said explicitly that Jacobs is presumed innocent.
- Podcaster Pete
The complaint alleges an argument became a physical struggle, that Jacobs grabbed the woman and threw her to the garage floor where she struck her head, and that he took one phone and damaged another. An officer reported redness on her face and neck and a bump on the back of her head. The complaint also says garage surveillance video corroborated portions of the account.
- Podcaster Pete
Those remain allegations. Jacobs' attorneys say the formal counts don't carry Wisconsin's domestic-abuse modifier, and that the case belongs in court.
- Fantasy Frank
His first appearance is set for November 17. That's a court date. It is not an NFL return date.
- Podcaster Pete
The league can finish its review before then, hold him past it, or take him off the list while the criminal case is still open. It can also discipline a player without a conviction, because the NFL runs its own investigation on its own evidentiary standard.
- Podcaster Pete
So why does everybody keep saying six games?
- Fantasy Frank
Because six games is a policy baseline in certain cases. It is not a countdown clock.
- Fantasy Frank
The Personal Conduct Policy identifies six games without pay as a baseline for a first violation in categories like assault, battery, domestic violence and dating violence. Aggravating or mitigating factors move the final number in either direction.
- Fantasy Frank
And Wisconsin's charge label doesn't dictate the NFL's classification. You can't type misdemeanor battery into a spreadsheet and have Roger Goodell pop out with the number six.
- Podcaster Pete
That's a terrible spreadsheet. But yes.
- Podcaster Pete
Article 46 also says regular-season and postseason games missed on the exempt list get credited against a suspension that's ultimately imposed, up to the length of that suspension.
- Fantasy Frank
So if Jacobs spent six games exempt and later got six games with full credit, that would ordinarily mean six total missed games. Not twelve.
- Fantasy Frank
That's an example of the accounting. It is not a prediction.
- Podcaster Pete
Green Bay opens September 13 at Minnesota. The Packers play their tenth game November 15 against the Vikings, then take their Week 11 bye. Jacobs' court appearance is November 17, right inside that bye. Their next game is November 25 against the Rams.
- Fantasy Frank
If he's still exempt through November 17, he'd have missed the first ten games. That is most of the fantasy regular season.
- Podcaster Pete
And that date still guarantees nothing. It's a checkpoint on a calendar, not a projected return.
- Fantasy Frank
You could hold him two and a half months, burn the bench spot the entire time, and still be waiting for clarity in Week 12. That possibility belongs in his draft price today.
- Podcaster Pete
Here's the production at risk.
- Podcaster Pete
Jacobs played 15 games in 2025. Two hundred thirty-four carries for 929 yards and 13 rushing touchdowns, plus 36 catches for 282 yards and another score.
- Podcaster Pete
Draft Sharks' full P P R tally gives him two hundred thirty-seven point one points. That's fifteen point eight one per game. R B thirteen in total points, and about R B nine on a per-game basis among qualifying backs.
- Fantasy Frank
Which explains the old price. When he's active, he's a high-end fantasy back.
- Podcaster Pete
ESPN's splits tell a second story. Across his first nine healthier games, Jacobs averaged twenty-one point one touches and nineteen point six fantasy points. In his final five after the knee problem, he fell to fourteen point six touches and eleven point three points.
- Fantasy Frank
So fifteen point eight one already blends the healthy workhorse with the compromised late-season version. Even after reinstatement, you can't assume twenty-one touches on day one.
- Podcaster Pete
Here's the mechanical sensitivity test. This isn't a projection. It's last year's rate multiplied by games available.
- Podcaster Pete
Seventeen games, two hundred sixty-eight point eight points. Miss two, two hundred thirty-seven point two. Miss four, two hundred five point five. Miss six, one hundred seventy-three point nine. Miss eight, one hundred forty-two point three. Miss ten, one hundred ten point seven.
- Fantasy Frank
You enjoyed that calculator voice a little too much.
- Podcaster Pete
I nearly gave you all seventeen rows.
- Fantasy Frank
Please don't.
- Podcaster Pete
The math overstates the lineup damage, because you can start a replacement.
- Fantasy Frank
And it understates the roster damage, because Jacobs still occupies a bench seat. That's why an open-ended absence can hurt more than a known six-game suspension. With a fixed number you know what you're building toward. Here, the waiting cost just keeps running.
- Podcaster Pete
Twelve-team Yahoo P P R. You're drafting tonight. Where does Jacobs go?
- Fantasy Frank
His old price is dead. Fantasy Football Calculator had him at three-oh-seven, around pick 31 overall, before this. Other pre-news boards had him near R B sixteen. I won't pay anything close to that.
- Podcaster Pete
Our gamedai risk-adjusted range is R B forty to R B forty-five. Roughly pick 105 to 125. That's Rounds 9 through 11 in a twelve-team league.
- Podcaster Pete
That's our recommendation. It's not a claim that market A D P has already moved there.
- Fantasy Frank
I want my starting lineup, at least two healthy running backs, and ordinary bench depth before I even think about him.
- Fantasy Frank
With six or more bench spots, late Round 9 or Round 10 works as a high-upside gamble. With four or five, push him to Round 12 or leave him undrafted entirely.
- Podcaster Pete
Two hundred dollar auction?
- Fantasy Frank
Three to six dollars. Not an R B two bid.
- Podcaster Pete
Best ball?
- Fantasy Frank
Bigger downgrade. No waiver repair, so I need an extreme discount before I'm interested.
- Podcaster Pete
Dynasty?
- Fantasy Frank
Don't erase his career over one uncertain season. But price in discipline, contract risk, and the chance Green Bay learns to run a committee without him.
- Podcaster Pete
And here's the trap I want to name before we go further. Do not solve this by drafting Jacobs and the Packers handcuff.
- Fantasy Frank
Right. That burns two roster assets to manufacture one starting running back, and neither one of them is guaranteed to give you a usable week. Take a healthy player where Jacobs used to go, and target the Green Bay back independently, later.
- Podcaster Pete
Green Bay traded for Kaleb Johnson from Pittsburgh on the same day Jacobs went onto the list.
- Podcaster Pete
That doesn't prove Jacobs misses two games or ten. It tells us the Packers wanted another NFL running back in the building immediately.
- Fantasy Frank
The room is now MarShawn Lloyd, Chris Brooks and Kaleb Johnson. And I'll say the thing straight, because people keep hedging it. Lloyd is the Packers back I want. Not Johnson.
- Podcaster Pete
Make the case.
- Fantasy Frank
Lloyd already knows this offense. He's been working with Green Bay's starters, he reportedly handled a workhorse role this preseason, and Green Bay has been talking up his talent when he's healthy.
- Fantasy Frank
The college efficiency backs it. FantasyPros has him top twenty in yards after contact, breakaway rate and elusive rating across his final two college seasons. Green Bay drafted him 88th overall in 2024. At U S C he ran for 820 yards and nine touchdowns on 116 carries, seven point one a pop, and added 13 catches.
- Podcaster Pete
And the market is already moving on him.
- Fantasy Frank
Fantasy Life moved Lloyd sixty spots, into their top sixty-five overall, and treats roughly Round 7 as reasonable. That's where I'm targeting him too.
- Podcaster Pete
Round 7. Not Round 8 or 9 like the old board said.
- Fantasy Frank
Round 7. Because look at the opportunity he's inheriting. Since Jacobs joined Green Bay he's averaged sixteen and a half P P R points a game. Last season, before the knee injury, he handled seventy-one percent of the Packers' rushing attempts and twenty-one point one touches a game.
- Fantasy Frank
If Lloyd inherits even most of that, he goes from a late-round pick to a weekly R B two with R B one upside. That's why I'll pay a round earlier than the consensus is comfortable with.
- Podcaster Pete
Fair warning attached?
- Fantasy Frank
One. His NFL résumé is a single game. Six carries for 15 yards and one catch for three. Injuries and illness wrecked his first two seasons. So I'm buying the role and the runway, not a guaranteed workhorse. Once the room prices him like a locked-in top-twenty back, I'm out.
- Podcaster Pete
Then Kaleb Johnson. Because Green Bay just traded for him today, and that acquisition does mean something.
- Fantasy Frank
It does. It just doesn't mean he's the answer. Pittsburgh took him 83rd overall in 2025 and he gave them 28 carries for 69 yards. Two and a half yards a carry. He'd fallen down the Steelers' depth chart before the trade, and now he has to learn Green Bay's terminology, protection calls and route responsibilities with the season about to start.
- Fantasy Frank
He's the cheaper lottery ticket. Pick 160 or later, or just a waiver watch. If the absence stretches and Lloyd can't stay healthy, Johnson grows into something. That's a contingency, not a plan.
- Podcaster Pete
Chris Brooks.
- Fantasy Frank
Less exciting, more established in the jobs coaches actually trust. Across three seasons he has 82 carries for 395 yards, four point eight a carry, and 24 catches for 160 yards. ESPN describes him as the third-down blocking back, and the preseason had him taking short-yardage snaps.
- Podcaster Pete
Pass protection doesn't score in Yahoo.
- Fantasy Frank
Still waiting on points per blitz pickup.
- Fantasy Frank
Brooks may matter more to the real offense than to yours. In full P P R he's the secondary stash, because third-down work creates catches. Look after pick 150, around Rounds 13 through 15.
- Podcaster Pete
Most likely early split?
- Fantasy Frank
Lloyd leads early downs and the explosive-play work. Brooks takes a real share of third downs, protection and possibly short yardage. Johnson starts as depth and tries to earn more. One week of first-team practice can rewrite all of it.
- Podcaster Pete
Jordan Love and the receivers?
- Fantasy Frank
Maybe more pass volume if Green Bay doesn't trust the replacement run game. But losing Jacobs can also cost them efficiency and goal-line offense. Call it opportunity redistribution, not a free upgrade.
- Podcaster Pete
History doesn't hand us a standard exempt-list absence. It hands us a range.
- Fantasy Frank
Adrian Peterson in 2014 is the nightmare case. Archived twelve-team P P R data had him around fifth overall, with some drafts taking him first. He played Week 1, scored eleven point three points, went onto the exempt list, and missed the final 15 games.
- Podcaster Pete
Matt Asiata absorbed most of the replacement work and finished with 10 total touchdowns and 44 catches. Useful. Nowhere near what managers thought they'd bought.
- Fantasy Frank
Kareem Hunt in 2018 teaches a different lesson. Hunt was R B three in half P P R through Week 11. In Kansas City's first game without him, Spencer Ware played sixty-nine percent of the snaps and Damien Williams played twenty-seven percent.
- Fantasy Frank
But Ware wasn't the winner. After Ware got hurt, Williams took the job. Over the final four regular-season games he ran for 204 yards, caught 19 passes and scored five touchdowns.
- Fantasy Frank
The first backup named is not always the back who wins you the fantasy playoffs.
- Podcaster Pete
Justyn Ross shows how the credit works. He spent five games exempt in 2023, then got a six-game suspension. The five counted. He served one more.
- Podcaster Pete
Jabrill Peppers shows reinstatement can arrive before the legal matter ends. He missed seven games in 2024, came back, and the NFL said its review was still open.
- Fantasy Frank
Seven games is still an enormous chunk of a fantasy season.
- Podcaster Pete
And Ezekiel Elliott in 2017 is the useful contrast. Known six-game suspension. Once the number was fixed, managers could price ten games and plan around the exact absence.
- Fantasy Frank
Jacobs offers none of that certainty.
- Podcaster Pete
One last replacement lesson, from a different disciplinary path. Justin Forsett was effectively free in 2014 and finished with two hundred forty-six point nine points after Baltimore moved on from Ray Rice.
- Fantasy Frank
Cheap shots on an unsettled backfield can win leagues. You just can't assume today's obvious name is automatically this year's Forsett.
- Podcaster Pete
Final board for a twelve-team Yahoo P P R draft today.
- Podcaster Pete
Josh Jacobs. Off the early-round queue entirely. Pick 105 to 125, and later than that with a short bench.
- Podcaster Pete
MarShawn Lloyd. Round 7. The Packers back we want, and the place to redirect the Jacobs pick.
- Podcaster Pete
Chris Brooks. Pick 150 or later, as the deeper full P P R and pass-protection bet.
- Podcaster Pete
Kaleb Johnson. Pick 160 or later, or a waiver watch while he learns the offense.
- Fantasy Frank
And four things to carry into the draft room.
- Fantasy Frank
Don't assume six games. Don't confuse November 17 with a return date. Yahoo won't let an exempt player touch an injured-reserve slot. And yesterday's price has nothing to do with today's risk.
- Podcaster Pete
Jacobs still has high-end running back ability when he's active.
- Fantasy Frank
But today you're drafting an open-ended, non-injured-reserve-eligible bench stash with real season-wrecking downside. Price that player. Not the old ranking.
- Podcaster Pete
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- Podcaster Pete
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- Fantasy Frank
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- Podcaster Pete
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- Fantasy Frank
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- Podcaster Pete
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