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Draft Room: Josh Jacobs Is Out Indefinitely, and MarShawn Lloyd Is the Pick

Josh Jacobs is on the Commissioner Exempt List with no return date and no Yahoo injured-reserve eligibility. Pete and Frank price the absence, kill the automatic six-game assumption, and name MarShawn Lloyd around Round 7 as the Packers back to redirect the Jacobs pick to, over the newly traded Kaleb Johnson.

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Draft Room: Josh Jacobs Is Out Indefinitely, and MarShawn Lloyd Is the Pick

  1. Podcaster Pete

    Josh Jacobs was going around pick 31 in fantasy drafts. Now he can't practice. He can't play. The NFL hasn't given him a return date, and Yahoo won't let you park him in an injured-reserve slot.

  2. Podcaster Pete

    So this isn't only an availability problem. It's an availability problem that sits on your bench and eats a roster spot every single week.

  3. Fantasy Frank

    An early third-round price for a player who gives you zero points and won't move out of the guest room.

  4. Podcaster Pete

    That's one way to say it.

  5. Fantasy Frank

    It's the accurate way.

  6. Podcaster Pete

    And before somebody says, it's probably six games... no. We don't know that.

  7. Fantasy Frank

    We really don't.

  8. Podcaster Pete

    I'm Pete.

  9. Fantasy Frank

    Frank.

  10. Podcaster Pete

    This is the gamedai Draft Room. We're working off the NFL announcement, ESPN's reporting, Yahoo's roster rules, Article 46 of the collective bargaining agreement, the filed criminal complaint, Packers data, and the historical cases that actually matter.

  11. Fantasy Frank

    Fewer guesses. Better draft decisions.

  12. Podcaster Pete

    The NFL placed Josh Jacobs on the Commissioner Exempt List on Sunday. I almost called it a suspension right there. That's exactly the mistake fantasy managers can't afford to make.

  13. Fantasy Frank

    Think of it as paid administrative leave. Jacobs keeps getting paid and he doesn't count against Green Bay's fifty-three player limit. He can't practice and he can't attend games. With the team's permission he can still use the facility for meetings, medical treatment, rehab and certain individual workouts.

  14. Podcaster Pete

    Green Bay doesn't control when it ends. Only the commissioner can place a player on that list, set how long it runs, and take him off it.

  15. Podcaster Pete

    Matt LaFleur can't decide on a Friday that he needs Jacobs against Minnesota and just activate him.

  16. Fantasy Frank

    And unlike an injury, there's no visible progression here. No limited practice, then full practice, then active. The decisive update has to come from the league office.

  17. Podcaster Pete

    The policy gives him a three business day window to appeal the placement. As of this recording, neither the NFL announcement nor ESPN's report puts a return timetable on him.

  18. Fantasy Frank

    Not two games. Not six. Not back after court. No timetable.

  19. Podcaster Pete

    Now the Yahoo problem, and this is the part people are underrating.

  20. Podcaster Pete

    Yahoo's own help page lists C E L, Commissioner Exempt List, and S U S P, suspended, as ineligible designations for an injured-reserve slot.

  21. Fantasy Frank

    Brutal.

  22. Podcaster Pete

    You cannot move Jacobs out of the way and use that roster spot on somebody else.

  23. Fantasy Frank

    So you pay twice. You lose his points, and you lose the bench spot that could've held a waiver breakout, a bye-week fill-in, or an actual player who's allowed to play football.

  24. Podcaster Pete

    There it is.

  25. Fantasy Frank

    A league with six or seven bench spots gives you room to wait. With four or five, Jacobs becomes a weekly tax. Best ball is worse again, because you can't use waivers to repair the pick at all.

  26. Podcaster Pete

    We also need to separate the current charges from the original arrest report, because those are two different things.

  27. Podcaster Pete

    Jacobs was arrested May 26 after police identified five suspected counts, including felony strangulation and suffocation. Those are not the charges now pending.

  28. Podcaster Pete

    The Brown County criminal complaint, filed August 27, lists two Class A misdemeanors. Battery, and criminal damage to property involving a phone. Each carries a maximum listed penalty of nine months in jail, a fine of up to ten thousand dollars, or both, if he's convicted.

  29. Fantasy Frank

    A complaint is an accusation, not a conviction. The district attorney said explicitly that Jacobs is presumed innocent.

  30. Podcaster Pete

    The complaint alleges an argument became a physical struggle, that Jacobs grabbed the woman and threw her to the garage floor where she struck her head, and that he took one phone and damaged another. An officer reported redness on her face and neck and a bump on the back of her head. The complaint also says garage surveillance video corroborated portions of the account.

  31. Podcaster Pete

    Those remain allegations. Jacobs' attorneys say the formal counts don't carry Wisconsin's domestic-abuse modifier, and that the case belongs in court.

  32. Fantasy Frank

    His first appearance is set for November 17. That's a court date. It is not an NFL return date.

  33. Podcaster Pete

    The league can finish its review before then, hold him past it, or take him off the list while the criminal case is still open. It can also discipline a player without a conviction, because the NFL runs its own investigation on its own evidentiary standard.

  34. Podcaster Pete

    So why does everybody keep saying six games?

  35. Fantasy Frank

    Because six games is a policy baseline in certain cases. It is not a countdown clock.

  36. Fantasy Frank

    The Personal Conduct Policy identifies six games without pay as a baseline for a first violation in categories like assault, battery, domestic violence and dating violence. Aggravating or mitigating factors move the final number in either direction.

  37. Fantasy Frank

    And Wisconsin's charge label doesn't dictate the NFL's classification. You can't type misdemeanor battery into a spreadsheet and have Roger Goodell pop out with the number six.

  38. Podcaster Pete

    That's a terrible spreadsheet. But yes.

  39. Podcaster Pete

    Article 46 also says regular-season and postseason games missed on the exempt list get credited against a suspension that's ultimately imposed, up to the length of that suspension.

  40. Fantasy Frank

    So if Jacobs spent six games exempt and later got six games with full credit, that would ordinarily mean six total missed games. Not twelve.

  41. Fantasy Frank

    That's an example of the accounting. It is not a prediction.

  42. Podcaster Pete

    Green Bay opens September 13 at Minnesota. The Packers play their tenth game November 15 against the Vikings, then take their Week 11 bye. Jacobs' court appearance is November 17, right inside that bye. Their next game is November 25 against the Rams.

  43. Fantasy Frank

    If he's still exempt through November 17, he'd have missed the first ten games. That is most of the fantasy regular season.

  44. Podcaster Pete

    And that date still guarantees nothing. It's a checkpoint on a calendar, not a projected return.

  45. Fantasy Frank

    You could hold him two and a half months, burn the bench spot the entire time, and still be waiting for clarity in Week 12. That possibility belongs in his draft price today.

  46. Podcaster Pete

    Here's the production at risk.

  47. Podcaster Pete

    Jacobs played 15 games in 2025. Two hundred thirty-four carries for 929 yards and 13 rushing touchdowns, plus 36 catches for 282 yards and another score.

  48. Podcaster Pete

    Draft Sharks' full P P R tally gives him two hundred thirty-seven point one points. That's fifteen point eight one per game. R B thirteen in total points, and about R B nine on a per-game basis among qualifying backs.

  49. Fantasy Frank

    Which explains the old price. When he's active, he's a high-end fantasy back.

  50. Podcaster Pete

    ESPN's splits tell a second story. Across his first nine healthier games, Jacobs averaged twenty-one point one touches and nineteen point six fantasy points. In his final five after the knee problem, he fell to fourteen point six touches and eleven point three points.

  51. Fantasy Frank

    So fifteen point eight one already blends the healthy workhorse with the compromised late-season version. Even after reinstatement, you can't assume twenty-one touches on day one.

  52. Podcaster Pete

    Here's the mechanical sensitivity test. This isn't a projection. It's last year's rate multiplied by games available.

  53. Podcaster Pete

    Seventeen games, two hundred sixty-eight point eight points. Miss two, two hundred thirty-seven point two. Miss four, two hundred five point five. Miss six, one hundred seventy-three point nine. Miss eight, one hundred forty-two point three. Miss ten, one hundred ten point seven.

  54. Fantasy Frank

    You enjoyed that calculator voice a little too much.

  55. Podcaster Pete

    I nearly gave you all seventeen rows.

  56. Fantasy Frank

    Please don't.

  57. Podcaster Pete

    The math overstates the lineup damage, because you can start a replacement.

  58. Fantasy Frank

    And it understates the roster damage, because Jacobs still occupies a bench seat. That's why an open-ended absence can hurt more than a known six-game suspension. With a fixed number you know what you're building toward. Here, the waiting cost just keeps running.

  59. Podcaster Pete

    Twelve-team Yahoo P P R. You're drafting tonight. Where does Jacobs go?

  60. Fantasy Frank

    His old price is dead. Fantasy Football Calculator had him at three-oh-seven, around pick 31 overall, before this. Other pre-news boards had him near R B sixteen. I won't pay anything close to that.

  61. Podcaster Pete

    Our gamedai risk-adjusted range is R B forty to R B forty-five. Roughly pick 105 to 125. That's Rounds 9 through 11 in a twelve-team league.

  62. Podcaster Pete

    That's our recommendation. It's not a claim that market A D P has already moved there.

  63. Fantasy Frank

    I want my starting lineup, at least two healthy running backs, and ordinary bench depth before I even think about him.

  64. Fantasy Frank

    With six or more bench spots, late Round 9 or Round 10 works as a high-upside gamble. With four or five, push him to Round 12 or leave him undrafted entirely.

  65. Podcaster Pete

    Two hundred dollar auction?

  66. Fantasy Frank

    Three to six dollars. Not an R B two bid.

  67. Podcaster Pete

    Best ball?

  68. Fantasy Frank

    Bigger downgrade. No waiver repair, so I need an extreme discount before I'm interested.

  69. Podcaster Pete

    Dynasty?

  70. Fantasy Frank

    Don't erase his career over one uncertain season. But price in discipline, contract risk, and the chance Green Bay learns to run a committee without him.

  71. Podcaster Pete

    And here's the trap I want to name before we go further. Do not solve this by drafting Jacobs and the Packers handcuff.

  72. Fantasy Frank

    Right. That burns two roster assets to manufacture one starting running back, and neither one of them is guaranteed to give you a usable week. Take a healthy player where Jacobs used to go, and target the Green Bay back independently, later.

  73. Podcaster Pete

    Green Bay traded for Kaleb Johnson from Pittsburgh on the same day Jacobs went onto the list.

  74. Podcaster Pete

    That doesn't prove Jacobs misses two games or ten. It tells us the Packers wanted another NFL running back in the building immediately.

  75. Fantasy Frank

    The room is now MarShawn Lloyd, Chris Brooks and Kaleb Johnson. And I'll say the thing straight, because people keep hedging it. Lloyd is the Packers back I want. Not Johnson.

  76. Podcaster Pete

    Make the case.

  77. Fantasy Frank

    Lloyd already knows this offense. He's been working with Green Bay's starters, he reportedly handled a workhorse role this preseason, and Green Bay has been talking up his talent when he's healthy.

  78. Fantasy Frank

    The college efficiency backs it. FantasyPros has him top twenty in yards after contact, breakaway rate and elusive rating across his final two college seasons. Green Bay drafted him 88th overall in 2024. At U S C he ran for 820 yards and nine touchdowns on 116 carries, seven point one a pop, and added 13 catches.

  79. Podcaster Pete

    And the market is already moving on him.

  80. Fantasy Frank

    Fantasy Life moved Lloyd sixty spots, into their top sixty-five overall, and treats roughly Round 7 as reasonable. That's where I'm targeting him too.

  81. Podcaster Pete

    Round 7. Not Round 8 or 9 like the old board said.

  82. Fantasy Frank

    Round 7. Because look at the opportunity he's inheriting. Since Jacobs joined Green Bay he's averaged sixteen and a half P P R points a game. Last season, before the knee injury, he handled seventy-one percent of the Packers' rushing attempts and twenty-one point one touches a game.

  83. Fantasy Frank

    If Lloyd inherits even most of that, he goes from a late-round pick to a weekly R B two with R B one upside. That's why I'll pay a round earlier than the consensus is comfortable with.

  84. Podcaster Pete

    Fair warning attached?

  85. Fantasy Frank

    One. His NFL résumé is a single game. Six carries for 15 yards and one catch for three. Injuries and illness wrecked his first two seasons. So I'm buying the role and the runway, not a guaranteed workhorse. Once the room prices him like a locked-in top-twenty back, I'm out.

  86. Podcaster Pete

    Then Kaleb Johnson. Because Green Bay just traded for him today, and that acquisition does mean something.

  87. Fantasy Frank

    It does. It just doesn't mean he's the answer. Pittsburgh took him 83rd overall in 2025 and he gave them 28 carries for 69 yards. Two and a half yards a carry. He'd fallen down the Steelers' depth chart before the trade, and now he has to learn Green Bay's terminology, protection calls and route responsibilities with the season about to start.

  88. Fantasy Frank

    He's the cheaper lottery ticket. Pick 160 or later, or just a waiver watch. If the absence stretches and Lloyd can't stay healthy, Johnson grows into something. That's a contingency, not a plan.

  89. Podcaster Pete

    Chris Brooks.

  90. Fantasy Frank

    Less exciting, more established in the jobs coaches actually trust. Across three seasons he has 82 carries for 395 yards, four point eight a carry, and 24 catches for 160 yards. ESPN describes him as the third-down blocking back, and the preseason had him taking short-yardage snaps.

  91. Podcaster Pete

    Pass protection doesn't score in Yahoo.

  92. Fantasy Frank

    Still waiting on points per blitz pickup.

  93. Fantasy Frank

    Brooks may matter more to the real offense than to yours. In full P P R he's the secondary stash, because third-down work creates catches. Look after pick 150, around Rounds 13 through 15.

  94. Podcaster Pete

    Most likely early split?

  95. Fantasy Frank

    Lloyd leads early downs and the explosive-play work. Brooks takes a real share of third downs, protection and possibly short yardage. Johnson starts as depth and tries to earn more. One week of first-team practice can rewrite all of it.

  96. Podcaster Pete

    Jordan Love and the receivers?

  97. Fantasy Frank

    Maybe more pass volume if Green Bay doesn't trust the replacement run game. But losing Jacobs can also cost them efficiency and goal-line offense. Call it opportunity redistribution, not a free upgrade.

  98. Podcaster Pete

    History doesn't hand us a standard exempt-list absence. It hands us a range.

  99. Fantasy Frank

    Adrian Peterson in 2014 is the nightmare case. Archived twelve-team P P R data had him around fifth overall, with some drafts taking him first. He played Week 1, scored eleven point three points, went onto the exempt list, and missed the final 15 games.

  100. Podcaster Pete

    Matt Asiata absorbed most of the replacement work and finished with 10 total touchdowns and 44 catches. Useful. Nowhere near what managers thought they'd bought.

  101. Fantasy Frank

    Kareem Hunt in 2018 teaches a different lesson. Hunt was R B three in half P P R through Week 11. In Kansas City's first game without him, Spencer Ware played sixty-nine percent of the snaps and Damien Williams played twenty-seven percent.

  102. Fantasy Frank

    But Ware wasn't the winner. After Ware got hurt, Williams took the job. Over the final four regular-season games he ran for 204 yards, caught 19 passes and scored five touchdowns.

  103. Fantasy Frank

    The first backup named is not always the back who wins you the fantasy playoffs.

  104. Podcaster Pete

    Justyn Ross shows how the credit works. He spent five games exempt in 2023, then got a six-game suspension. The five counted. He served one more.

  105. Podcaster Pete

    Jabrill Peppers shows reinstatement can arrive before the legal matter ends. He missed seven games in 2024, came back, and the NFL said its review was still open.

  106. Fantasy Frank

    Seven games is still an enormous chunk of a fantasy season.

  107. Podcaster Pete

    And Ezekiel Elliott in 2017 is the useful contrast. Known six-game suspension. Once the number was fixed, managers could price ten games and plan around the exact absence.

  108. Fantasy Frank

    Jacobs offers none of that certainty.

  109. Podcaster Pete

    One last replacement lesson, from a different disciplinary path. Justin Forsett was effectively free in 2014 and finished with two hundred forty-six point nine points after Baltimore moved on from Ray Rice.

  110. Fantasy Frank

    Cheap shots on an unsettled backfield can win leagues. You just can't assume today's obvious name is automatically this year's Forsett.

  111. Podcaster Pete

    Final board for a twelve-team Yahoo P P R draft today.

  112. Podcaster Pete

    Josh Jacobs. Off the early-round queue entirely. Pick 105 to 125, and later than that with a short bench.

  113. Podcaster Pete

    MarShawn Lloyd. Round 7. The Packers back we want, and the place to redirect the Jacobs pick.

  114. Podcaster Pete

    Chris Brooks. Pick 150 or later, as the deeper full P P R and pass-protection bet.

  115. Podcaster Pete

    Kaleb Johnson. Pick 160 or later, or a waiver watch while he learns the offense.

  116. Fantasy Frank

    And four things to carry into the draft room.

  117. Fantasy Frank

    Don't assume six games. Don't confuse November 17 with a return date. Yahoo won't let an exempt player touch an injured-reserve slot. And yesterday's price has nothing to do with today's risk.

  118. Podcaster Pete

    Jacobs still has high-end running back ability when he's active.

  119. Fantasy Frank

    But today you're drafting an open-ended, non-injured-reserve-eligible bench stash with real season-wrecking downside. Price that player. Not the old ranking.

  120. Podcaster Pete

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  121. Podcaster Pete

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  122. Fantasy Frank

    And if your league still hasn't picked a draft order, the free Draft Order Arena has Draft Rumble, Monster Truck Rally, the forty-yard dash, Marble Madness, Robot one hundred meter and Free Throw Frenzy.

  123. Podcaster Pete

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  124. Fantasy Frank

    Unlike Josh Jacobs, they also won't take up a bench spot.

  125. Podcaster Pete

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